Agenda and minutes

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Contact: Ben Baugh, Democratic Services 

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No. Item


Apologies for absence

To receive apologies for absence.


Apologies for absence had been received from committee member Councillor Seldon.  Apologies had been received from Councillors Crockett (cabinet member - health and adult wellbeing) and Councillor Watson (cabinet support member - adults and communities).  Apologies had also been received from Stephen Vickers (director for adults and communities).


Named substitutes (if any)

To receive details of any member nominated to attend the meeting in place of a member of the committee.


Councillor Summers was present as a substitute for Councillor Seldon.


Declarations of interest

To receive any declarations of interests in respect of schedule 1, schedule 2 or other interests from members of the committee in respect of items on the agenda.


No declarations of interest were made.


Questions from members of the public

To receive any written questions from members of the public.


No questions had been received from members of the public.


Questions from councillors

To receive any written questions from councillors.


No questions had been received from councillors.


21/22 budget saving proposal amendment pdf icon PDF 220 KB

Following the adults and wellbeing scrutiny committee meeting held on 13 January 2021, this report provides an updated replacement 21/22 budget saving proposal for the committee to consider making recommendations to inform and support the process for making Cabinet proposals to Council regarding the adoption of the budget and associated budget framework items, including providing constructive challenge to the Cabinet’s proposals.

Additional documents:


Note: In addition to the report and appendix published in the agenda, a supplement had been circulated before the meeting which contained presentation slides and identified a correction to references, made at the last meeting held on 13 January 2021 and in the documents for this meeting, to the effect that the savings gap was £320k and not £330k.

The chairperson reminded the committee that, at the last meeting, a budget saving proposal had been suspended as a consequence of a recent High Court judgement (minute 25 of 2020/21 refers).  This additional meeting had been convened to consider an amended saving proposal and to determine any recommendation that the committee wished to make to Cabinet.

The head of prevention and support explained the presentation slides which detailed the amended savings proposal for income generation of £0.52m, comprising: £200k by applying a 3.9% increase to pension income received in 2020/21 that had been put on hold; £312k by applying a 2.5% increase to state retirement income and review of occupational / private pension income from April 2021; and £8k through conducting reviews of nil charge payers and disability related expenses to identify changes in circumstances.  The team manager (welfare and financial assessments) provided an overview of the graphs included in the presentation slides.

The head of prevention and support and the team manager (welfare and financial assessments) responded to questions from committee members, the principal points included:

1.           It was confirmed that the uplifts in retirement income in 2020/21 and 2021/22 would be taken into account when setting the charges for care and support services.

2.           The savings proposals were based on the assumption that the Minimum Income Guarantee (MIG) and Personal Expenses Allowance (PEA) rates set by the Department for Health and Social Care (DHSC) would remain frozen in 2021/22; the committee was informed that these allowances had been frozen since 2016.

3.           Undertaking a review of nil charge payers and disability related / household expenses was described as ‘normal business’ but would be subject to increased focus by the financial assessment team for 2021/22.

4.           It was noted that the increased charges would affect pension age service users receiving care and support in their own home or in care homes.

5.           It was confirmed that the savings gap which the budget saving proposal amendment sought to address was £320k and not £330k.

6.           It was acknowledged that the use of a different value axis for the ‘people receiving care and support in own home’ graphs for ‘increased charge state pension 3.9%’ and ‘combined 3.9% and 2.5%’ had been unhelpful and there was a need for statistics and graphs to be presented consistently;

7.           The committee was provided with assurance that services users were notified about increased charges and were signposted proactively to the appeal process, and advice and support was available to service users on accessing benefits that they were entitled to. 

8.           An overview of the appeals process was provided and it was noted that appeals could be  ...  view the full minutes text for item 33.


Date of next meeting

The next scheduled meeting is Monday 29 March 2021, 2.30 pm.


Monday 29 March 2021 at 2.30 pm


[* note: an additional meeting of the committee was arranged subsequently for Wednesday 24 March 2021 at 9.30 am]