Agenda and minutes

Venue: Town Hall, St Owen Street, Hereford.

Contact: Sally Cole,Governance Services 

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37.

PRAYERS

Minutes:

The Very Reverend Michael Tavinor led the Council in prayers.

 

 

Following prayers the Chairman welcomed the new Councillor for the St Nicholas ward Councillor Anthony Powers as a new Member to the Council.

38.

APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE

To receive apologies for absence.

Minutes:

Apologies for absence were received from Councillors:

 

CNH Attwood

MJK Cooper

PGH Cutter

DWGreenow

J Hardwick

RC Hunt

G Lucas

PJ McCaull

R Preece

PJ Watts

 

 

 

39.

DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST

To receive any declarations of interest by Members in respect of items on the Agenda.

Minutes:

DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST.

Councillor A Seldon, Non-Pecuniary, Agenda item 14, Ocle Pychard Parish Council.

 

DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST.

Councillor JG Jarvis, Non-Pecuniary, Agenda Item 8, Notices of Motion, member of the Hereford Futures Board.

 

DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST.

Councillor JG Lester, Non-Pecuniary, Agenda Item 14, Ocle Pychard Parish Council.

 

DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST.

Councillor PM Morgan, Non-Pecuniary, Agenda item 14, Ocle Pychard Parish Council.

 

40.

MINUTES pdf icon PDF 142 KB

To approve and sign the Minutes of the meeting held on 20 July 2012.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

RESOLVED:  That the Minutes of the meeting held on 20 July 2012 be confirmed as a correct record and signed by the Chairman, subject to the following amendment:

·         Minutes No: 29 – A Member commented that the proposals for Hereford City were fundamentally flawed; highlighting conflict with ward boundaries within the Parish of Hereford City which would no longer be coterminous causing confusion when elections were held.

·         In response to a comment on the Minutes and that in future the minutes of Council should include any written responses for completeness.  The Chairman advised that the query should be referred to the next meeting of the political group leaders.

41.

CHAIRMAN'S ANNOUNCEMENTS

To receive the Chairman's announcements and petitions from members of the public.

Minutes:

The Chairman in her announcements:

 

·         Reminded Members of the cakes for sale at Council in aid of Macmillan’s World’s Biggest Coffee Morning.

·         Informed Members that this year’s Poppy Day Appeal would be launched at ASDA superstore on 27 October at 10.00 am.

·         Reported on the Carers Annual Meeting that she attended, which was of great interest to her due to her background in this area.

·         Reported on her attendance at the opening of the new head quarters of the Hereford Sea Cadets at Wyeside opened by the Deputy Lord Lieutenant, Mr Clive Richards OBE.

·         Reported on her attendance at the launch of the Scenic Bus Route which travels between Ross-on-Wye and Hereford by way of King’s Thorn.

·         Expressed her pleasure at attending the Community Games for people with learning disabilities held at Hereford Leisure Centre to mark the 2012 London Olympic and Paralympic Games.

·         Congratulated the Council’s Markets Team who were runners up in the category of ‘Market Team of the Year’ at the national competition organised by the National Association of British Market Authorities.

·         Referred to the exciting events held over the summer, which included the royal visit by Her Majesty the Queen, the Three Choirs Festival and the Olympic Torch passing through Hereford.

·         Informed Members of the reception held on 19 September for the Herefordshire Paralympic Athletes at Point4 and advised of the public home coming welcome for the Paralympians to be held in High Town on Saturday 29 September.

·         Reminded Council that this was the last Council meeting for Chief Executive Chris Bull who would be leaving Herefordshire Council on 12 October.  The Chairman thanked Chris Bull for all his work as joint Chief Executive for Herefordshire Council and Herefordshire Primary Care Trust.

42.

QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC pdf icon PDF 77 KB

To receive questions from members of the public.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

A copy of the public questions and written answers, together with the supplementary questions and answers asked at the meeting are attached to the Minutes as Appendix 1.

43.

FORMAL QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILLORS TO THE CABINET MEMBERS AND CHAIRMEN UNDER STANDING ORDERS pdf icon PDF 97 KB

To receive any written questions from Councillors.

Minutes:

A copy of the Member questions and written answers, together with the supplementary questions and answers asked at the meeting are attached to the Minutes as Appendix 2.

44.

NOTICES OF MOTION UNDER STANDING ORDERS

Three Notices of Motion have been submitted for consideration by Council.

 

Notice of Motion One

 

Submitted by Councillors: MAF Hubbard, EPJ Harvey, C Nicholls, S Michael, J Kenyon, MD Lloyd-Hayes, EMK Chave, A Hempton-Smith, FM Norman.

 

Under 4.1.16.5 of the Constitution the undersigned move the motion below to address the critical local issue regarding the development of the Old Cattle Market.

 

On the morning of Wednesday 18 July the Member for Central Ward received some information regarding the retail development on the Old Cattle Market site from two separate sources that he considers to be reliable.  In isolation, each piece of information might not be considered as urgent, but when put together they create a picture that necessitates an urgent motion to Council.  The information was as follows:

 

1.      A meeting has been held between representatives of Hereford Futures and Stanhope at which Stanhope asserted that without access to further funds to “incentivise potential tenants” a final deal could not be resolved for the retail development.

 

2.      A senior executive of British Land with responsibility for negotiating progress on the retail development has asserted that as each day passes the likelihood of a deal being brokered becomes less and less likely due to the deteriorating economic climate under which the deal is being done.  Further, that if any development is to occur on the Old Cattle Market site, the remaining restrictions on the developers approaching existing High Town retailers will have to be lifted.

 

MOTION

 

This Council resolves that:

 

(a)     there will be no further relaxation of the restrictions that limit the developers of the Old Cattle Market site from approaching existing High Town retailers and that the list of named retailers that they cannot approach be shared confidentially with Group Leaders and the Chairman of Overview and Scrutiny to ensure policing of this policy.

 

(b)     no further funding is made available from Herefordshire Council to the developer Stanhope for this project.

 

(c)     that cross party talks are immediately held to develop fall-back plans for the site should a deal not be forthcoming.

 

Notice of Motion Two

 

Submitted by Councillors: RI Matthews and TM James.

 

All Council Members, local businesses and the electorate we serve understand that the economy is showing little or no sign of sustained recovery, and further government funding cuts are anticipated over the coming months and years

 

The council has to make significant savings to protect vital front line services, and must carefully target any expenditure on economic development initiatives that achieve the best possible value for money with complete engagement of the existing business community.

 

At present, we have two unelected business boards in the form of Hereford Futures and the Enterprise Zone, with their own highly paid Chief Executives managing similar or almost identical organisations.  We also have the highly respected Hereford Business Board who give their services free and because they are local should have far more say in our economic future.

 

The Council therefore moves that an urgent review takes  ...  view the full agenda text for item 44.

Minutes:

Notice of Motion One – Development of the old Cattle Market Site

 

Submitted by Councillors: MAF Hubbard, EPJ Harvey, C Nicholls, S Michael, J Kenyon, MD Lloyd-Hayes, EMK Chave, A Hempton-Smith, and FM Norman.

 

Councillor Hubbard proposed the Notice of Motion.  After consultation with the Monitoring Officer the Chairman ruled the Notice of Motion out of order.

 

Councillor Hubbard accepted the ruling of the Chairman but stated that the Notice of Motion had been registered in July and any concerns should have been raised at that stage.  Members of Council accepted there were concerns with the Notice of Motion but agreed that any concerns should have been raised prior to the agenda being published. 

 

 

Notice of Motion Two – Investigation of Possible Amalgamation of Hereford Futures and the Enterprise Zone.

 

Proposed by Councillor RI Matthews and seconded by Councillor TM James

 

Councillor Matthews addressed Council and advised that the Cabinet Member Enterprise and Culture, had altered the final paragraph of the original motion before Council, which was agreed by Councillors: Matthews and James.

 

Altered Final Paragraph:

That a full review take place regarding the Council’s support to economic development and enterprise including the funding of Hereford Futures, the Economic Development team, Local Enterprise Partnership, Hereford Business Board, Enterprise Zone and any other relevant bodies with the aim of obtaining considerable financial savings for the taxpayer, achieving a far more effective and appropriate structure to deliver the County’s economic priorities.

 

The following comments were made in debate:

 

·         A Councillor expressed concern that the amendment might have lost the meaning from original motion.  The Cabinet Member had been asked to visit Ledbury in order to implement the economic strategy in in the town, as it had significant industry along with young people and families, good road and rail links and broadband in the town.

·         The IOC Group Leader stated the focus seemed to be on Hereford City, which appeared too dominant compared to the market towns, and believed there needed to be an organisation which served the County as a whole.  This comment was supported by other Members.

·         The Leader stated the purpose was to look after business across the county and it was important to ensure everything was in place to carry this out.

·         Members expressed concerns about what was happening in the city centre, the fact that there were a number of empty shops and that shop owners and the public were not being kept informed or seeing any benefit regarding the proposals for the city centre.

·         The Cabinet Member spoke in support of the motion stating Herefordshire’s economy was based on small and medium sized businesses, which would support the economy of the County.  Greater focus on EU funding and refocusing on what businesses wanted and what support they could expect to receive was also needed.

 

Councillor Matthews stated he was delighted with the cross party support for the notice of motion and moved the motion.

 

RESOLVED:

 

That a full review take place regarding the Council’s support to economic  ...  view the full minutes text for item 44.

45.

LEADER'S REPORT pdf icon PDF 85 KB

To receive the Leader’s report, which provides an overview of the Executive’s activity since the last Council meeting.

Minutes:

The Leader of the Council, Councillor Jarvis, presented his report.

 

Members made comments on the following items:

 

·         Planning for the Future, agenda page 45 – it was requested that all Members were kept regularly informed on issues regarding the Waste Plant.  In response the Cabinet Member Major Contracts, stated that things were moving forward and negotiations were being carried out.  In addition it was asked if some of the meetings of ‘Your Community, Your Say’ meetings could be held in the day time for some of the more elderly residents.

·         Herefordshire’s People, agenda page 45 paragraph 2 – in congratulating the exam results of looked after children it was requested that Members were kept informed of the progress of looked after children as corporate parents.  In response to a question on exam results and that a letter was sent to the Minister, the Cabinet Member stated that the local colleges were aware of the issues, however, it was the responsibility of the school to address the issue of which exam board they used.

·         Carers in the County Consultation page 46 paragraph 4 – in referring to the consultation on the website it was asked that it be remembered that not everyone had access to the web.

·         Council Tax Benefit Scheme page 46 paragraph 5 – assurance was sought that people were being made actively aware of this benefit.

·         Hereford Racecourse, agenda page 46 paragraph 6 – it was stated that the impact of the racecourse closing impacted locally as well as nationally and it was requested that Members be kept informed on events and a Member briefing be provided at the earliest opportunity.  In response the Leader stated that a timetable had been set and he was working towards a formal agreement in the near future.  It was hoped that racing could be resumed in 2014.

·         Borders Broadband Project page 46 paragraph 8 – In responding to the points raised the Cabinet Member Education and Infrastructure stated he was aware that the original figure had been £6m however, Broadband Delivery UK (BDUK) had underestimated the rurality of the area and increased the budget in order to achieve what was needed for the County.  The Council had decided to match fund to ensure a strong broad band network for the future.  Members congratulated the Cabinet Member on what had been achieved with the Border Broadband Project.  With regard to the percentage of the County that would be covered by Broadband, the Cabinet Member stated that BDUK were expected to provide high speed broadband to up to 90% of the County.  Presently the take up of high speed broadband was 7-8%.  He stated that there would be no exclusion, once completed, for lower speed and there were new technologies and bursary schemes to fill any gaps.

·         Affordable Housing page 46 paragraph 7 – in response to a question on disused buildings, the Leader asked all Councillors to notify the Cabinet Member of any disused properties that could be  ...  view the full minutes text for item 45.

46.

THE ANNUAL COUNCIL MEETING pdf icon PDF 85 KB

To receive the recommendations of the Audit and Governance Committee, that met on 21 September 2012.  (To follow).

Minutes:

Councillor Stone, Chairman of the Audit and Governance Committee presented the Monitoring Officer’s report o the Annual Council meeting.  Councillor Stone supported the report and stated that he felt that currently Council was trying to deal with too many issues at the annual meeting and that more time needed to be given to civic matters.  He added that the Committee supported the recommendations.

 

In debate it was noted:

 

·         Annual Council was an important occasion to welcome visitors from out of the County.

·         Annual Council provides the Chairman with the opportunity to recognise the achievements of people within the County.

·         It was noted the annual reports from Committees, the Leader’s report and questions from Members and the public should no longer be considered at the Annual meeting.  It was suggested that consideration be given to a pre-end of year report.  The Chairman requested the suggestions be considered by Group Leaders.

RESOLVED

              THAT:

a)    The business to be discussed at the Annual Council meeting in May be amended as shown in Appendix 1 to the report; and

b)    The Monitoring Officer be authorised to make any consequential amendments to the Constitution.

47.

REVIEW OF OVERVIEW AND SCRUTINY STRUCTURE pdf icon PDF 126 KB

To receive the recommendations of the Audit and Governance Committee, that met on 21 September 2012.  (To follow).

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The Chairman of the Overview and Scrutiny Committee presented the report of the Monitoring Officer on the Review of the Overview and Scrutiny Structure and made the following comments:

 

·         Emphasised that the Lamb report proposed the way forward for the Council.

·         At a recent meeting Members had expressed the view that a three Committee structure should be adopted, the Chairman stated he believed a two Committee structure should be adopted comprising of one Overview and Scrutiny and one Health Committee.

·         Essential to ensure Cabinet and Overview and Scrutiny worked well together and the Lamb report proposed a working group build upon this.

·         It was suggested that the Chairmen of the Task and Finish Groups hold more public meetings.

·         It was proposed that the structure of a two Committee system be reviewed in 12 months.

 

Councillor Robertson proposed an amendment to the recommendations for a three Committee structure to include an Environment Committee based on the away day discussions held by Committee Members in April this year.  The amendment was seconded by Councillor Bowen, who stated it would provide strength and depth to the scrutiny process.

 

In debate the following comments were made:

 

·         The IOC Group Leader reiterated that the role of the Committees was to scrutinise and not to Monitor and felt that a two Committee structure was enough for Members and their workload capacity, particularly for those Members working full time. 

·         The Independent Group Leader urged Members to support a three Committee structure to include an Environment Committee to deal with issues such as transportation and highways.

·         The Liberal Democrat Group Leader supported a two Committee Structure.

·         The Cabinet Member Education and Infrastructure reminded Members that they had been consulted regarding changes and Group Leaders had recommended that Members support the recommendations.

 

The amendment to the recommendations was lost.

 

In response to questions to Chairmanship the Leader announced that:

 

Councillor Seldon would be the Chairman of the Overview and Scrutiny Committee and Councillor Harvey would serve as Vice-Chairman.

Councillor Millar would be the Chairman of the Health Scrutiny Committee and Councillor Robertson would serve as Vice-Chairman.

RESOVED

          THAT:

a)    the recommendations of the report on the Overview and Scrutiny (O&S) Function as set out at pages 3-4 of Appendix 1 to this report be adopted;

b)    the authority to exercise the Authority’s statutory health scrutiny functions be delegated to the Health and Social Care Overview and Scrutiny Committee;

c)    the Terms of Reference of the General Overview and Scrutiny Committee and the Health and Social Care Overview and Scrutiny Committee be as set out at paragraph 23 of the report;

d)    each Overview and Scrutiny Committee consist of 13 Councillors and seats on each Committee be allocated by political proportionality as set out at paragraph 13 of the report appointments to those seats to be confirmed by Group Leaders;

e)    the change to two Overview and Scrutiny Committees take effect from Monday 15 October 2012.

f)     Council approve the appointment to the office of Chairman and Vice-Chairman of  ...  view the full minutes text for item 47.

48.

GRANT OF DISPENSATIONS UNDER THE LOCALISM ACT 2011 pdf icon PDF 84 KB

To receive the recommendations of the Audit and Governance Committee, that met on 21 September 2012.  (To follow).

Minutes:

Councillor Stone, Chairman of the Audit and Governance Committee presented the report of the Monitoring Officer to Council on the granting of dispensations under the Localism Act 2011 and moved the adoption of the recommendations.

RESOLVED

          THAT:

a)    the power to grant dispensations under Section 33 (2)(b)(d) and (e) Localism Act 2011 or any subsequent amendment be delegated to the Audit and Governance Committee;

b)    the power to grant dispensations under Section 33 (2)(a) and (c) Localism Act 2011 or any subsequent amendment be delegated to the Monitoring Officer with a right of appeal to the Audit and Governance Committee; and

c)    Council Procedure Rules be amended by the addition of:

“4.1.25     Exclusion of Members with Disclosable Pecuniary Interests

                 Where a Member is prevented by virtue of a Disclosable Pecuniary interest from participating in a meeting, that Member shall immediately vacate the room or chamber where the meeting is taking place (including any public area) unless a dispensation has been granted”

                 And the insertion of the words “clause 4.1.25” in clauses 4.1.2.1 and 4.1.22.1

49.

APPOINTMENT OF INDEPENDENT PERSONS TO THE HEREFORDSHIRE STANDARDS PANEL

To note and approve the appointments of Mr Jake Bharier, Mr Robert Cook, and Mr David Stevens as Independent Persons to the Herefordshire Standards Panel, in accordance with the Localism Act 2011.  This follows a recruitment period, and interviews which were held on 5 September 2012.  The interview panel comprised Councillors Barnett, Robertson and Stone, and the Assistant Director – Law, Governance and Resilience/Monitoring Officer.  

 

Please note that as part of their new role, Independent Persons can be consulted by any members who are subject to a complaint under the new standards regime.  They will be in attendance at this Council meeting, and there will be an opportunity for members to meet and chat to them informally before and after the Council meeting.

Minutes:

Councillor Stone, Chairman of the Audit and Governance Committee rose to address Council on the Appointment of Independent Persons to the Herefordshire Standards Panel.  Councillor Stone expressed his thanks to independent panel members Mr Bharier and Mr Stevens for the guidance they would provide the new panel members over the next 12 months and thanked them for their attendance at the Council meeting.

RESOLVED:  That it be noted and approved the appointment of Mr Jake Bharier, Mr Robert Cook and Mr David Stevens as Independent Persons to the Herefordshire Standards Panel, in accordance with the provisions of the Localism Act 2011.

50.

APPOINTMENT OF TEMPORARY COUNCILLORS TO OCLE PYCHARD PARISH COUNCIL pdf icon PDF 84 KB

To seek Council’s approval for the temporary appointment of three Councillors to Ocle Pychard Parish Council to allow it to progress urgent business until either an election has been held or Councillors have been co-opted to fill some of the current vacancies which would allow the Council to become quorate.

Minutes:

Councillor Jarvis, Leader of the Council presented the report of the Head of Governance Services on the Appointment of Temporary Councillors to Ocle Pychard Parish Council and moved the adoption of the recommendations.

RESOLVED

          THAT:

a)    Council agreed to the appointment of the following Councillors as temporary members of the Ocle Pychard Parish Council until such time as an election has been held and the new Councillors have taken up office or failing enough nominations being received, the co-option of three Councillors:

Councillors: JG Lester, PM Morgan, A Seldon; and

b)    the Assistant Director, Law, Governance and Resilience, be authorised to make the necessary order with effect form 28 September 2012.

51.

EMPLOYMENT PANEL pdf icon PDF 40 KB

To receive the recommendations of the Employment Panel at its meeting on 13 September 2012.

Minutes:

Councillor Jarvis, Leader of the Council, rose to address Council with the recommendations of the Employment Panel which met on 13 September 2012.  The Leader made the following comments:

 

·         The Employment Panel received evidence of the current salary trends for the Chief Executive appointments to authorities similar to Herefordshire, which informed the recommendation to Council.

·         Council is required to approve the salary a part of its published Pay Policy Statement under the Localism Act 2011.

·         Should Council approve the salary the Employment Panel will proceed with the recruitment process and make a recommendation to Council on a suitable appointment in due course.

·         Under the Constitution during the interim period an officer needs to be appointed to carry out the functions of the Chief Executive.  It was suggested that the Deputy Chief Executive is the appropriate person.

 

Council debated the funding for the post and the need to look at the public sector and the salary boundaries and pay.  Council noted the new post would only be responsible for Herefordshire Council and not a joint Chief Executive as previously. Discussion was held on whether any savings would be achieved and Members were reminded that those working in the public sector, particularly those working health, received considerably more salary than this post was offering. Following a vote there were:

 

For                   18

Against            11

Abstentions     03

 

The Leader moved the adoption of the recommendations of the Employment Panel.

 

RESOLVED

          THAT:

a)    the proposed remuneration for the post of Chief Executive be within a range of £140,000 to £145,000; and

b)    the Deputy Chief Executive fulfil the functions of the Chief Executive under the Constitution on an acting basis pending an appointment to the post of Chief Executive.

 

 

INFORMATION ITEM - OLD CATTLE MARKET SITE, HEREFORD

The Leader announced to Council that preparatory work for the start of demolition work on the old cattle market site would commence on 1 October 2012.