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13. |
Apologies for absence
To receive apologies
for absence and to note any substitutes.
Minutes:
Formal
apologies for absence were recorded at the meeting from: Jamie
Audsley (Herefordshire Wildlife Trust); Councillor Jackie Charlton
(Powys County Council); Nick Day (The Friends of the Lower Wye);
Emma Guy (Bannau Brycheiniog National Park Authority); Marc
Lidderth (Environment Agency); Claire Minett (Natural England);
Peter Morris (Powys County Council); Fergus O’Brien (Dwr
Cymru/Welsh Water); and Stuart Smith (Wye Salmon
Association).
Invitees that had declined the meeting invitation included:
Craig O’Connor (Monmouthshire County Council).
The Chair gave her and the Board’s best
wishes to Stuart Smith.
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Notes of the previous meeting PDF 240 KB
To receive the notes
of the meeting held on 16 October 2024.
Minutes:
The
notes of the previous meeting held on 16 October 2024 were
agreed.
The
following matters arising were noted:
The
Chair raised updates from previous actions, including a letter sent
on 31 October 2024 to Herefordshire MPs. It outlined the
Board’s and Statutory Officer Group’s work, urging
collaboration and requesting visibility on the parliamentary
group’s progress. It also flagged the lack of a River
Champion, as outlined in Defra’s Wye plan. An email was
received by Ellie Chowns MP, updating on cross-party parliamentary
efforts, which remain too preliminary for a Board visit at this
meeting. She expressed willingness to attend a future session when
developments advance.
The
Chair noted Lord Lipsey’s initiative to unite Wye-focused
Lords and MPs, with the four key catchment MPs now
engaged.
Additionally, a letter was sent to HM Treasury referencing
Defra’s Wye plan, seeking further commitment, which remains
under review. Emma Hardy MP affirmed government support for the
Board and catchment partnership, and a meeting was held with her
and Huw Irranca-Davies MS.
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15. |
Questions from members of the public PDF 198 KB
To
receive any written questions from members of the
public.
Minutes:
The Chair noted that several questions had
been received from members of the public.
For Question 1, the principal points
include:
- It was noted that movement of
farmers from the old countryside stewardship into SFI that was
happening seamlessly until October 2024 has now caught up in the
spending review which has created uncertainty within the farming
community.
- It was added that it is creating
issues with the delivery of staff who are trying to facilitate
nature-friendly farming in the catchment.
- A comment was made about the lack of
SFI in the uplands and there is a pause on capital grants
throughout the whole of the stewardship and SFI schemes which has
caused some of the issues with ageing infrastructure. Until there
is certainty, farmers are on pause for a lot of the works that they
were aiming to do.
- It was noted that there will be no
budget around the SFS for Wales until at least July. It will not be
until July where it will be known what funding exists.
The Chair emphasized the necessity of
preparing two sets of notes: one to be written to the Welsh
Government addressing support for sustainable farming and its
implications, and another to be sent to the UK Government seeking
clarification on the Secretary of State’s speech and the
effects of the Pickering case.
For the question submitted by Friends of the
River Wye, the Chair noted that it is not for the NMB to comment on
speeches by the Secretary of State. However, the Chair added that
it is wished the Secretary of State know that support for the river
and on farming is needed from the government.
However, the decision lay with the board if
the majority view was to write to the Secretary of State to comment
on his speech to the Oxford Farming Conference.
The Chair asked the Board if it was wished
that a formal response was made to the Rt Hon Steve Reed MP.
Action(s):
- To write to the Welsh
Government.
- To write to the Secretary of
State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs.
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16. |
Update from the River Wye Statutory Officers' Group PDF 119 KB
The update from the River Wye Statutory Officers’ Group (SOG)
includes the following attached documents:
·
River Wye SOG: Meeting notes, 18 December 2024
·
River Wye SOG: Meeting slide deck, December 2024 [additional slides
may follow]
·
River Wye SOG: Terms of Reference, December 2024
·
Natural England and Environment Agency consideration of Nitrogen
targets on the River Wye and Lugg SAC, December 2024
[with Annex 1: Natural England, Definitions of Favourable Condition
for designated features of interest]
·
Environment Agency: Wye Management Catchment Inspection Data, 9
November 2024
Additional documents:
Minutes:
The key points made included:
- The Chair noted that, with respect
to the number of farm inspections carried out and actions issued,
that EA are pivoting somewhat the way in which they are delivering
inspections and the consequences of those inspections. It was asked
if this is a trend or if this is a one-off.
- Martin Quine responded that the
Agricultural Regulatory team was established in 2021-22. More
specialist staff have been created and the new team inspect
regulatory compliance of agriculture. Inspections have gone up by
160% on what was done previously. In the future, where some of the
worst performing water bodies are identified, there will be a
integration of top rivers into planning work.
- In addition, there are still some
actions that require follow-up and there is a targeted approach to
follow up on those that are still outstanding.
- In response to a question about
targets, Martin Quine noted that there are around 280 farm
inspections for the Wye and farm inspections account for going to
farms that have not been inspected previously. When a farm is
revisited, it is not classed as a second inspection compared to
other permitted sites such as the waste industry which would be
counted. It was added that the continued dataset could be
provided.
- In response to a question about the
backlog of unresolved farm inspections and when they would be
resolved, Martin Quine noted that they would be followed up
according to which ones are outstanding. EA have a long list of
farms that are ranked according to which ones need to be followed
up first.
- The Chair noted that the task to
inspect and regulate and then follow up is a daunting task and that
there needs to be a shorter route between identifying a
non-compliance, asking for remedial action if necessary, and that
action being done.
- The Phosphate Mitigation Lead added
that having an understanding on the types of non-compliance and the
severity of non-compliance may be helpful on the farms that are
being followed-up.
- Martin Quine responded that this is
feasible to do and that the most commonly occurring non-compliance
relates to nutrient planning.
- In response to a question about
whether Natural Resources Wales (NRW) is able to provide equivalent
figures, Ann Weedy noted that this is something that NRW could do
in the future.
- The Chair commented on catchment
sensitive farming and asked what the targets for take up on
recommendations and the number of visits.
- Emma Johnson (Natural England) noted
in terms of targets that NE do not have outcome/output targets for
catchment sensitive farming advice. The agreement with Defra is
that NE do a certain number of visits.
- In terms of how the impact of visits
are assessed, it was noted that there is no mechanism in place to
do that. There are reports brought out to illustrate the impact
that catchment sensitive farming has but it is not on a bespoke
area. As it is not compliance, NE do not go back to ...
view the full minutes text for item 16.
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Update on the Diffuse Water Pollution Plan
Minutes:
The key points made included:
- Martin Quine outlined the Diffuse
Water Pollution Plan (DWPP), which the EA is developing post a 2015
judicial review. The DWPP will update and replace the English
element of the Nutrient Management Plan
(NMP), with consensus that one plan should cover the catchment. It
includes three elements: an evidence base, an options appraisal,
and an action plan. The EA and NRW are aligning efforts with Welsh
consultants, while discussions focus on the plan’s detail
level—specific actions versus broader guidelines. In the West
Midlands, the EA is managing three plans, collaborating with NE on
one.
- The EA aims to finalize the plan by
March 2025, though it won’t be formally published like other
EA policy documents. It will be shared with the Board.
- Responding to a query on sharing,
Martin Quine confirmed a draft would be provided for Board
feedback. The EA is assessing how the new plan advances beyond the
current one, including mitigation options.
- On implementation ownership, Martin
Quine clarified that the EA and NE will oversee the English
section, while NRW handles the Welsh side.
- Some measures will apply across both
England and Wales, though policy differences between organizations
will create variations.
- The options appraisal has involved
consultations with various partners.
- Specific timelines and targets are
still undefined at this stage.
- The plan will evolve with ongoing
research.
- Addressing why the Board
wasn’t consulted on the options appraisal, Martin Quine noted
that partners have been engaged.
- It was also mentioned that the
Nutrient Management Board (NMB) should hold a discussion regarding
the DWPP once the Board receives it.
- Martin Quine noted that the plan
will take into consideration the evidence which will come from
farming groups, and others in the catchment. It was added that EA
will not be able to ask everyone’s opinion but rather the
plan will be developed which is supported by the modelling and
evidence base.
- It was added that the plan will be
received by the Board after it is considered by the catchment
partnership. The Board will be able to provide comments and they
will be subsequently reviewed by EA.
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Update on Welsh evidence of Nutrient Management Plan
Minutes:
The key points made included:
- Liz Duberley provided an update on
the Welsh evidence of the NMP.
- Following on from the funding that
was received from Welsh Government, the council has drafted a
specification to build the Welsh catchment evidence base and
develop a unified plan across the entire catchment.
- This will integrate the DWPP with
other evidence into a single cohesive plan.
- The bids were reviewed and whilst
Herefordshire Council is managing the funding resource, it is being
led by NRW and Powys Council have had input into the review of the
bids.
- A pre-start meeting is planned for
the end of the week involving EA, NE and the author of the DWPP to
ensure that discussions are held from the outset around how data is
shared and how those plans are aligned.
- Wider involvement from members of
the Statutory Officer Group will also be sought.
- Responding to a query about Board
engagement, Liz Duberley affirmed that further discussions with the
Board would be pursued.
- On the Nature Restoration Fund, the
council is in talks with the Ministry of Housing, Communities &
Local Government (MHCLG) about its structure and has requested
inclusion in the pilot scheme.
- When asked about the start and end
dates for the consultants’ appraisal work in the Wye SAC, it
was confirmed that these could be provided.
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Proposal to amalgamate secretariat of Wye Catchment Partnership and Nutrient Management Board PDF 435 KB
A summary paper is
attached.
Minutes:
The Chair invited members to share their views
on merging the secretariat functions of the Wye Catchment
Partnership and the Nutrient Management Board.
The key points raised were:
- Previous meetings in Hereford and
Leominster saw reduced Welsh participation, but relocating meetings
nearer the border improved engagement with the partnership.
- Combining secretariat services was
suggested to generate cost savings and enhance efficiency within
the Board.
- A unified secretariat could
alleviate administrative burdens on the Wye and Usk Foundation and
the Wye Catchment Partnership, allowing them to focus on their core
activities.
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Planning Reform Working Paper - Development and Nature Recovery PDF 532 KB
A briefing note and
working paper attached.
Additional documents:
Minutes:
The Board noted the
paper, and it was asked for the item to be added to a subsequent
agenda.
Action:
1.
It was requested that the item be added to a subsequent NMB
meeting agenda.
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Wider updates from members of the board
To receive updates on
activity from members of the Wye Catchment Nutrient Management
Board.
Minutes:
The Chair reported on
a positive meeting with Emma Hardy MP and Huw Irranca-Davies,
though no firm outcomes were achieved.
It was proposed that
RePhoKUs be invited to present their completed report to the Board,
as it would strengthen the Board’s evidence base.
The Chair highlighted
Farm Herefordshire’s absence, noting the challenge of
obtaining farming sector updates without their input. Georgie Hyde
(National Farmers Union) confirmed she had spoken to Farm
Herefordshire in relation to receiving a report from Farm
Herefordshire for the next Board meeting.
Sarah James (Farm Cymru) announced plans for a Welsh Water Stories
conference in Wales in May, to which the Chair offered support with
publicity if needed.
Concerns were raised
regarding the government’s decision to appeal the outcome of
the 2023 High Court Case brought by the Pickering Fishery
Association against the Secretary of State for Environment, Food
and Rural Affairs.
Danial Humphreys noted that Welsh Water is scheduling a co-delivery
event in April, aligning with AMP 8 investment plans.
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22. |
Any other business and date of the next meeting
Minutes:
The next meeting was
scheduled for Wednesday 16 April 2025, 2.00 pm.
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