Agenda and minutes

Venue: Conference Room 1 - Herefordshire Council, Plough Lane Offices, Hereford, HR4 0LE. View directions

Contact: Henry Merricks-Murgatroyd, Democratic Services Officer 

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Items
No. Item

53.

Apologies for absence

To receive apologies for absence.

 

Minutes:

Apologies were received from Cllr Polly Andrews, Cllr Jenny Bartlett, and Cllr Simeon Cole.

 

54.

Named substitutes

To receive details of any councillor nominated to attend the meeting in place of a member of the committee.

Minutes:

Cllr Louis Stark was present as the named substitute for Cllr Polly Andrews, and Cllr Rebecca Tully was present as the named substitute for Cllr Jenny Bartlett.

 

55.

Declarations of interest

To receive declarations of interest in respect of items on the agenda.

Minutes:

No declarations of interest were made.

 

56.

Minutes pdf icon PDF 252 KB

To receive the minutes of the meeting held on Monday 31 March 2025.

Minutes:

The minutes of the previous meeting were received.

 

Resolved: That the minutes of the meeting held on 31 March 2025 be confirmed as a correct record.

 

57.

Questions from members of the public

To receive any written questions from members of the public.

Minutes:

No questions had been received from members of the public.

 

58.

Questions from members of the council

To receive any written questions from members of the council.

Minutes:

No questions had been received from councillors.

 

59.

Adult Mental Health Inpatient and Rehabilitation Services Redesign pdf icon PDF 520 KB

To provide an update on Herefordshire and Worcestershire Health and Care NHS Trust’s Adult Mental Health Inpatient and Rehabilitation Services Redesign.

 

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The Chairperson invited representatives from the Herefordshire and Worcestershire Health and Care NHS Trust (the trust) to update the committee on Adult Mental Health Inpatient and Rehabilitation Services Redesign.

 

The principal points of the discussion are summarised below:

 

  1. The Chief Operating Officer referred to two related schemes as referenced in the report: 1. Quality improvement scheme that is focused on the improvement of patient pathways on acute mental health wards with the outcome of eliminating inappropriate out-of-area placements. It was noted that this scheme is coming to an end and does not have an immediate bearing on services provided in Herefordshire. 2. Longer-term piece of redesign work for mental health rehabilitation.

 

  1. It was added that Mental health services are provided to around 20,000 people across the two counties of Herefordshire and Worcestershire each year. Every year around 450 people are admitted to a specialist in-patient bed and of those only 30-40 require a rehabilitation bed.

 

  1. There are currently about 50 acute beds with one ward at Stonebow and two at Elgar supplemented by a 9-patient intensive care unit.

 

  1. The complete refurbishment of Stonebow has recently been finished so all three wards have now been completely rebuilt to modern standards.

 

  1. It was noted that admission to acute care is something that is considered when community care cannot be safely provided and a patient would likely be in there for 25-30 days. For rehabilitation units, this is for patients with persistent challenging conditions or are highly disabled by their mental health condition and admission is for a year or longer. In Herefordshire, there are ten beds at Oak House.

 

  1. Following a review of rehabilitation provision across the two counties, the adoption of the Getting It Right First Time (GIRFT) methodology which is supported by the Royal College of Psychiatrists and the NHS England commissioning guidance has been used to look at rehabilitation mental health services to compare those to national standards for mental health rehabilitation. In the review, it has been realised that local rehabilitation services are not the best fit for the needs of the current population.

 

  1. All the units across the two counties are often not of the right design or to the right specification to provide care for the more challenging patients that require rehabilitation in both counties. The implication for that is that patients are placed out of area and currently there are 9 placed out of area. Additionally, out of the 50 acute inpatient beds, there are 17 who have been in acute hospital for more than 60 days and many of those would benefit from rehabilitation, however, there is not the right profile of beds across the two counties.

 

  1. Another factor considered in the redesign is Oak House which is a ten-bed unit based in a Georgian house. There is a lease on it which ends in 2027. The building has considerable limitations including line of sight, accessibility problems, and it cannot be fully de-risked.

 

  1. The redesign programme started in January 2023 and has followed the  ...  view the full minutes text for item 59.

60.

All-age carers' strategy action plan - recommendations of the working group pdf icon PDF 391 KB

To discuss and agree any proposed recommendations from the committee’s working group on the All-age carers’ strategy action plan.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The committee considered a report on the All-age carers’ strategy action plan – recommendations of the working group. The Chairperson introduced the officers to present the report.

 

The Statutory Scrutiny Officer introduced the report and explained that the committee had decided to examine this action plan last year, at a time when the plan had yet to be developed. Wanting to carry out more detailed work with the officers, the committee chose to undertake this in a less formal working group setting. As a result, the meeting was productive, allowing the committee to make suggestions for refining the action plan before it was brought forward for discussion at the full committee meeting.

The principal points of the discussion are summarised below:

 

  1. In response to a question about the need for council-supported forums where carers can informally share issues, advice, or concerns with one another, the Commissioning Manager acknowledged the challenges in encouraging individuals with lived experience to participate in committees. It was noted that there are ongoing discussions about how to better engage carers through larger forums, which would enable feedback to be gathered and reported on activities undertaken. 

 

  1. The Cabinet Member for Adults, Health and Wellbeing thanked the scrutiny committee for its efforts as part of the working group and acknowledged its recognition of the significance of the all-age carers’ strategy and the vital role of carers, including those who may not identify themselves as carers.

 

  1. The Chair of the Carers Partnership Group added that a significant challenge in getting carers to attend board meetings or events is that they cannot step away from their responsibilities unless someone else is available to temporarily take over their caregiving role, making it difficult for them to participate.

 

  1. The Head of Service Living Well added that there have been discussions about creating forums and potentially replicating the young carers sub-group of the Carers Partnership Board, which meets at times convenient for young people. She also noted that consideration has been given to strategies for recruiting members to the partnership boards.

 

  1. The Cabinet Member for Adults, Health and Wellbeing also emphasized the importance of acknowledging both the quality of life and the needs of those who provide care and what respite they are receiving.

 

 

It was noted, as part of the report recommendations, the committee would receive an update in due course on implementing the All-age carers strategy action plan.

 

The Chairperson thanked the officers and the Chair of the Carers Partnership Group for attending.

 

Resolved that:

 

  1. The committee note the report;

 

  1. The committee endorse the findings of the working group’s report; and

 

  1. The committee receives an update in due course on implementing the All-age carers strategy action plan.

61.

Work programme 2024/5 pdf icon PDF 392 KB

To consider the work programme for Herefordshire Council’s Health, Care and Wellbeing Scrutiny Committee for the municipal year 2024/25.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The Statutory Scrutiny Officer noted the draft work programme for the Health, Care, and Wellbeing Scrutiny Committee for the municipal year 2024/25.

 

The principal points of the discussion are summarised below:

 

  1. It was noted that as part of the scrutiny review was an exploration of different ways of working away from the committee-based system. There are a couple of issues that were recognised that the committee may want to consider.

 

  1. Firstly, the Statutory Scrutiny Officer suggested that a task and finish group be created to consider the topic of adult social care demand. If the committee felt that this was a topic of interest, a terms of reference could be brought to the subsequent committee meeting to carry out that piece of work over the course of the year.

 

  1. Secondly, the reconfiguration of Integrated Care Boards (ICBs) was cited as another topic of interest to the committee. The ICB deals with and manages a lot of health provision across Herefordshire for which the local authority has a stake in and any of those changes to the reconfiguration of the ICB would have an impact on the council and the services it provides. This is a developing piece of work but it was suggested that the committee should consider how it will respond to that.

 

  1. The Cabinet Member for Adults, Health and Wellbeing expressed concern, from the directorate’s perspective, about the potential notification of a CQC visit and emphasised that staff should not be diverted from preparing for the inspection to take part in a task and finish group focused on adult social care demand. She noted that while no date for the visit has been confirmed, it could occur soon. It was therefore suggested that the committee postpone starting the task and finish group until after the CQC visit has taken place.

 

  1. The Director of Public Health added that it might be beneficial to wait for the CQC inspection to take place before initiating the task and finish group.

 

  1. The Statutory Scrutiny Officer responded that he did not foresee any conflict between the CQC inspection and the work of the task and finish group. He explained that, with a task and finish group, terms of reference would be presented to the committee in July, followed by the development of a detailed scope and work programme to explore the topic further.

 

  1. In response to a question about when the report from the CQC would be received, the Cabinet Member for Adults, Health and Wellbeing explained that, to her understanding, the CQC provides a verbal report at the end of their visit week, with the written report following fairly soon afterward.

 

Resolved that:

 

  1. The committee agree the draft work programme for Health, Care and Wellbeing Scrutiny Committee contained in the work programme report attached as appendix 1, which will be subject to monthly review, as the basis of their primary focus for the remainder of the municipal year.

 

  1. The committee note the work programme for the other scrutiny committees, and identify any  ...  view the full minutes text for item 61.

62.

Date of the next meeting

Date of the next scheduled meeting: Monday 28 July 2025, 2.00 pm

Minutes:

The date of the next meeting is Monday 28 July 2025, 2.00 pm.