Agenda and minutes

Venue: Conference Room 1, Herefordshire Council Offices, Plough Lane, Hereford, HR4 0LE

Contact: Jen Preece, Democratic Services Officer 

Link: Watch this meeting on the Herefordshire Council YouTube Channel

Items
No. Item

15.

Apologies for absence

To receive apologies for absence.

Minutes:

Apologies for absence had been received from Councillor Peter Hamblin.

16.

Named substitutes (if any)

To receive details of any councillor nominated to attend the meeting in place of a member of the committee.

Minutes:

There were no named substitutes.

17.

Declarations of interest

To receive declarations of interest in respect of items on the agenda.

Minutes:

No declarations of interest were made.

18.

Minutes pdf icon PDF 265 KB

To approve and sign the minutes of the meeting held on Thursday 26 September 2024.

Minutes:

RESOLVED:

 

That the minutes of the meeting held on 26 September 2024 be confirmed as a correct record and signed by the chairman.

19.

Questions from members of the public pdf icon PDF 200 KB

To receive any questions from members of the public.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

Questions received and responses given are attached as a supplement to the minutes.

20.

Questions from councillors

To receive any questions from councillors.

Minutes:

There were no questions received from Councillors.

 

The Chair used his discretion to ask the Cabinet Member Finance and Corporate Services (CMFCS) for an update with regards to the improvement works being undertaken on the council’s website.

 

The CMFCS advised that work was being undertaken in two phases. Phase one had started, which was around looking at the content management system (CMS) and would be completed by August 2025.

 

Phase two would be looking at improving the look, feel and functionality of the website.

 

The CMFCS confirmed that phase one needed to be completed in order to make improvements to the search engine facility.

 

 

 

 

21.

Internal Audit Update Report Quarter 2 2024/25 pdf icon PDF 212 KB

To update members on the progress of internal audit work and to bring to their attention any key internal control issues arising from work recently completed.

 

To assure the committee that action is being taken on risk related issues identified by internal audit. This is monitored through acceptance of agreed management actions and progress updates in implementing the action plans. In addition, occasions where audit actions not accepted by management are documented if it is considered that the course of action proposed by management presents a risk in terms of the effectiveness of or compliance with the council’s control environment. 

 

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The Head of Internal Audit (HIA) introduced the report the purpose of which was to update members on the progress of internal audit work and to bring to their attention any key internal control issues arising from work recently completed and to assure the committee that action was being taken on risk related issues identified by internal audit. The principal points were noted:

 

·       No high organisational risks had been identified.

·       No limited assurances to be reported.

·       6 priority two actions had been agreed as part of the foster placement’s audits.

·       9 assignments have been completed since the last progress report with 5 assignments currently in progress and 1 at draft report stage.

·       Since the last report and at the request of the committee, the coverage dashboard had been developed to include courage of future proposed audits. The committee were reminded this could be viewed in more detail in real time using the Auditboard programme.

·       Action tracking since the previous report had been successful with 42 actions having been completed. Work would continue with officers to either close outstanding actions, or, if necessary, agree a revised implementation date.

·       34 actions were reported as being over 90 days overdue and were their focus of attention.

·       A continued high feedback score of 99% was still being achieved although feedback rates had declined since the last committee. It was thought this was due to timings and it was hoped they would see an improvement in the next report.

 

In response to committee questions, it was noted:

 

1.     The HIA would adjust the visual presentation used to identify the coverage. Currently where no audits are planned, the dashboard is coloured red, which the committee felt gave a negative perception. It was explained that not everything could be audited and there would be other assurances/ mitigating risks that the council has in place for each area.

2.     The HIA and Director of Finance (DOF) would work in collaboration to produce a plan which provides details of assurance for those areas with no coverage.

3.     The HIA explained how and when it is decided an audit is required.

4.     The HIA would look to include future proposed audits within future reports which displays a prioritisation of high, medium, and low giving the committee an indication of how soon an audit can be expected.

5.     In terms of education, there were lots of areas that could be looked to audit but it had been agreed that the dedicated schools grant deficit would be an area best place to start given the current situation. In relation to the fall in birth rates, the HIA confirmed that this would fall into their scope when the process is started for selecting schools to sample.

6.     The HIA explained that as part of their value for money work they had already started work on the waste contract and lessons learned from that contract ready for the public realm contract. The DOF advised the committee that  ...  view the full minutes text for item 21.

22.

Energy from waste loan update pdf icon PDF 232 KB

To update the committee on the current status of the energy from waste loan arrangement to enable the committee to fulfil its delegated functions.

 

 

 

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The Director of Finance (DOF) introduced the report the purpose of which was to update the committee on the status of the energy from waste loan arrangement to enable the committee to fulfil its delegated functions.  The principal points included:

 

·       The loan balance as at the end of October was 28.5 million.

·       It was explained to the committee that financial covenants look at the position and performance of the borrower and provide assurance over the risk of their ability to meet future debt repayments. It was confirmed no ratios are forecast to be below the agreed compliance.

·       The ownership of Mercia Waste Management had changed In June 2024, but after legal advice and an independent review being undertaken by KPMG, it was noted that there were no changes required to the risk assessment.

·       Committee can be assured that external audit review as part of their usual audit testing, and that a clean audit report had been received.

 

In response to committee questions, it was noted:

 

1.     The DOF confirmed the environmental impact section noted within the report was in respect of the environmental impact of the loan repayment.

2.     A written response would be obtained and provided on the installation of carbon caption equipment.

3.     The DOF explained that the loan repayments that are shown in the report are for the term of the loan and that there would be a large payment for the outstanding balance in full due at the end in line with the legal loan agreement.

 

 

RESOLVED:

 

That: a) The committee found the risks to the council, as joint lender, are considered reasonable and appropriate having regard to the risks typically assumed by long term senior funders to waste projects in the United Kingdom and best banking practice; and

b) reviewed the arrangements for the administration of the loan and were confirmed as satisfactory.

 

Action(s)

 

2023/24-048 A written response would be obtained and provided on the installation of carbon caption equipment.

 

23.

Regulatory Investigatory Powers Act 2000 (RIPA) Update pdf icon PDF 292 KB

To provide an update to the Committee about the operation of Regulatory Investigatory Powers Act 2000 (RIPA) within the Council. 

 

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The Head of Legal Services (HLS) introduced the report, the purpose of which was to provide an update to the Committee about the operation of Regulatory Investigatory Powers Act 2000 (RIPA) within the Council.  The principal points were noted:

 

  • The Policy was last reviewed and updated in June 2021 by the committee. A further review was performed in June 2023, and it was considered by officers that the Policy remained valid and up to date with only minor changes required to reflect changes to the roles within the Council.
  • A copy of the amended policy with tracked changes was attached at Appendix 1 for committee approval.
  • Training for all officers is now in included in their induction in relation to RIPA which also includes the use of social media.
  • Approximately 50 officers within the council were trained by an external provider in April and May this year. These were mainly officers within environmental health and trading standards but did also include planning enforcement and senior officers of the council with specific duties.
  • The Investigatory Powers Commissioners Office (IPCO) had undertaken an audit and had provided guidance on a couple of points but were satisfied with the way the policy was being used.
  • The Head of Regulation and Technical Services (HRTS) advised the committee that RIPA powers had been used twice in the last three years.
  • The HRTS explained that the RIPA powers are used sparingly but the policy is vital for example test, purchasing of tobacco sales for underage children and that reviewing the policy periodically to assure the committee that those that this review has been robust and is in line with IPCO.

 

In response to committee questions, it was noted:

 

  1. 100% of staff that had been instructed to had attended the training.
  2. Training was provided by an external provider and was conducted online. The provider encouraged engagement and asking questions during and after the sessions. Each individual received a detailed training pack that they could refer to or refresh their memory as and when they needed to use the powers.

Resolved

 

That the Committee adopted the revised RIPA Policy in Appendix 1; and noted that the Investigatory Powers Commissioners Office had been satisfied as to the operation of RIPA within the Council.

 

24.

Whistleblowing Update pdf icon PDF 216 KB

To update the Committee as to the operation of the Whistleblowing Policy.

 

Minutes:

The Head of Legal Services (HLS) introduced the report the purpose of which was to update the Committee as to the operation of the Whistleblowing Policy. The principal points included:

 

  • On 23 June 2023 the Committee reviewed and approved the existing Whistleblowing Policy.
  • It had been considered since that the Policy did not require any further updates.
  • 3 Complaints had been received in 2023/24 via the whistleblowing email account, two disclosures were investigated by the relevant manager and management action was completed. The third complaint related to an individual who was not employed by the Council.
  • 2 Complaints had been received in 2024/25; both had been rejected as neither related to the Council as one related to an external company and other a different council.
  • The lack of complaints were not thought to be a concern and did not mean that employees or the public are not raising complaints. It meant that the public are using the complaints process and employees are using the grievance or other employment processes.

 

In response to committee questions, it was noted:

 

  1. The HLS explained that the whistleblowing policy is for staff and employees and gives them the opportunity to report a complaint / issue without it posing a risk to their position or to any detriment to themselves.
  2. The HLS explained that if a similar report was raised by a member of the public, such reports would be treated as a complaint and would be processed via the appropriate complaint’s channels. Members of the public are allowed to make a complaint anonymously, but it was highlighted this may cause problems with effectively dealing with their complaint. The public would need to request anonymity but in practice, these reports come to the council as anonymous emails in any event.    
  3. It was confirmed that to promote the policy following a recommendation passed by this committee previously, the Chief executive includes this within the staff updates every six months. It was also noted that it is also included as part of any new members of staff induction to the council.

 

RESOLVED:

That: The committee noted the operation of the employee Whistleblowing Policy since the update to the Policy in June 2023 and the SWAP audit.

 

25.

Work programme pdf icon PDF 207 KB

To consider the work programme for the committee.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The committee’s updated work programme was presented, showing amendments which included the Contract and Financial Procedure Rules Update and the Governance Statement Progress Report on Actions reports having been moved to January.

 

It was also noted that an additional item would be added to January to include the Quarter 2 Internal Audit Progress Report.

 

RESOLVED

 

That subject to the amendment noted, the updated work programme be agreed.

26.

Date of next meeting

Tuesday, 28 January 2025, 2pm.

Minutes:

Tuesday, 28 January 2025, 2pm.