Agenda and minutes

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Contact: Paul Rogers, Democratic Services Officer, Tel: 01432 383408  e-mail:  progers@herefordshire.gov.uk

Items
No. Item

1.

Election of Chairman

To elect a Chairman for the ensuing year.

Minutes:

Councillor JW Hope was nominated and seconded for the Chairmanship.

 

RESOLVED:   that Councillor JW Hope be elected Chairman of the Local Admissions Forum for the ensuing year.

 

Councillor JW Hope in the Chair.

2.

Appointment of Vice-Chairman

To appoint a Vice-Chairman for the ensuing year.

Minutes:

Councillor AM Toon was nominated and seconded for the Vice-Chairmanship.

 

RESOLVED:   that Councillor AM Toon be appointed Vice-Chairman for the ensuing year.

3.

Apologies For Absence

To receive apologies for absence.

Minutes:

Apologies were received from Ann Robertson, Sara Catlow-Hawkins and A  Ross.

4.

Named Substitutes

To receive any details of Members nominated to attend the meeting in place of a Member of the Forum.

Minutes:

There were no named substitutes.

5.

Declarations of Interest

To receive any declarations of interest by Members in respect of items on the Agenda.

Minutes:

There were no declarations of interest.

6.

Minutes pdf icon PDF 61 KB

To approve and sign the Minutes of the Meeting held on 28th February 2008.

Minutes:

RESOLVED:   that subject to the insertion of the word ‘schools’ after the word ‘the’ in the second line of the fourth paragraph of the preamble to Minute No. 25, the Minutes of the meeting held on the 28th February 2008 be approved as a correct record and signed by the Chairman.

7.

Late Items/Any Other Business

To consider any issues that Forum Members may wish to raise.

Minutes:

There were no late items or any other business.

8.

Children Out of Year - Consultation Document pdf icon PDF 88 KB

To consider and provide responses to the Children Out of Year Consultation Document.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The Forum considered a report seeking responses to the Children Out of Year General Advice Document.

 

Dave Scott, Principal Educational Psychologist, referred to the document attached to the report at Appendix 1.1 and stated that the document centres on ensuring that children’s needs are noted and considered fully before any decisions are made.

 

Dave Scott informed the Forum that emotional, academic and maturity needs of children are taken into account and the individual family’s circumstances. Once a decision is taken it impacts on future years and aspects of life.

 

RESOLVED:   that the document attached to the report at Appendix 1.1 be noted and endorsed.

 

 

 

 

9.

Constitution of the Local Admissions Forum pdf icon PDF 95 KB

To consider updating the Local Admissions Forum Constitution in accordance with the School Admissions Code.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

Consideration was given to a report seeking agreement to amendments to the Local Admission Forum’s Constitution in accordance with the provisions of the School Admissions Code 2007.

 

Sharon Menghini, Director of Childrens Services, expressed the view that the addition of a member of the armed services community would be beneficial to the Forum. The Forum would also need to satisfy itself that it always took into account the particular issues affecting children who are looked after.  It was suggested that the Forum invite specialists for specific items relating to looked after children as required.

 

With regard to ‘Decision Making’ in the Constitution, it was suggested that any oral presentations by schools should be set at a maximum time limit of five minutes or such time limit to be set by the Chairman.   

 

A Member suggested that contact be made with the Hereford Cathedral School for a nomination to attend Forum meetings.

 

A Member further suggested that the information which sets out Acts of parliament and School Admissions Code in the ‘Background’ paragraph contained in the covering report, would be a useful addition to the Constitution.

 

RESOLVED:   (a)        that subject to the following additions to the Local Admissions Forum Constitution, the amendments as set out in the report be approved:

 

(i)         the information detailing the Acts of parliament and School Admissions Code as they ralate to the Forum, as referred to in the ‘Background’ paragraph of the report, be included in the Constitution;

 

(ii)        the words ‘or such time limit to be set by the Chairman’ be inserted after the word ‘Minutes’ in the fourth line of the third paragraph relating to ‘Decision Making’;and

 

(b)               that the Hereford Cathedral School be approached to nominate a representative to the Forum as a Key Interested Group;

 

(c)        that the Forum seeks representation from the armed forces and that whenever issues considered affect children who are looked after, that specialists from the Children and Young People’s Directorate are present at the Forum.

 

 

 

 

10.

Information for Parents Booklets pdf icon PDF 87 KB

To approve the separate booklets for the admission/transfer of pupils into (a) primary and (b) high schools.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The Forum considered a report requesting approval of booklets for the admission/transfer of pupils into primary and secondary schools. .

 

It was noted that paragraph 4 (ii) of Appendix 3A 6 should read ‘High School’ not ‘Infants’.

 

A Member referred to paragraph 4.1(i) regarding the Statement of Special Educational Needs which names the school and suggested that this is the parent’s choice.

 

Sharon Menghini informed the Forum that it is the parent’s/carer’s choice to decide which school they prefer.

 

Concern was expressed by a member that parent’s appeals regarding school preference decisions do not have any regard or relationship with school waiting lists and that this anomaly applied to the numbers of children given places at schools in accordance with Special Educational Needs (SEN).

 

Andrew Blackman, School Admissions and Transport Manager, stated that waiting lists and school appeals together with SEN children given places at schools are administered in accordance the appropriate regulations.

 

Sharon Menghini, Director of Childrens Services, suggested that a transparent  statement be included in the appropriate booklet which highlights the non association between the rules, procedures and protocols relating to school appeals, SEN children and school waiting lists and would give a greater understanding of these issues.

 

A Member referred to the fact that some parents made a decision not to send their children to certain schools because they could not afford the cost of the school uniforms. The Member suggested that school uniform costs should not be an issue with children not choosing schools and that there should be rules in place to help with these problems.

 

A Member referred to the rules where parents can write to the Chair of Governors with complaints, page 32 of Appendix 3A refers, and took the view that communication with the chairman of governors should be available via email.

 

Sharon Menghini informed the Forum that work was in progress to include a list of Chairman of Governors email addresses on a Web site which parents could log into and that reference to the list would be included in the appropriate paragraph in relation to complaints procedure on page 32 of the Appendix to the report.

 

Discussion ensued regarding the non compliance of admission policies at some schools. It was suggested that where there is non-compliance of policies, the school should be informed that it has a period of one month to comply and that failure to do so would result in the issue being brought to the attention of the Schools Adjudicator. Also, that a letter be written to the Chairman of Governors advising of the situation.

 

A Member referred to the Forms for completion regarding Statemented Children and suggested that the Forms should read ‘Statemented and Banded Funding’.

 

Sharon Menghini, Director of Childrens Services, informed the Forum that the ‘Statemented and Banded’ issue was currently being reviewed.

 

A Member made reference to the use of the term ‘Open Place Special’ under the haeding ‘How Places were Allocated’ and that this category should be explained.

 

Sharon Menghini took  ...  view the full minutes text for item 10.

11.

Standard Application Forms for School Year 2009/2010 pdf icon PDF 87 KB

To approve the layout and content of the “common application form” to be used for the co-ordinated secondary transfer arrangement for September 2009, SA1, and the PA1 form for primary co-ordination to be introduced from the same time.

 

Additional documents:

Minutes:

Consideration was given to a report seeking to approve the layout and content of the “common application form” to be used for the co-ordinated secondary transfer arrangement for September 2009, SA1, and the PA1 form for primary co-ordination to be introduced from the same time.

 

RESOLVED:   that the application forms be approved.

 

12.

Applying for a Place at High School and Starting School pdf icon PDF 87 KB

To consider the format of the simple guidance notes in relation to the admission of children into reception class at 4 years and the transfer of pupils into High School at age 11.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

Consideration was given to a report seeking approval of the layout and content of the simple guidance notes in relation to admission of children into reception class at 4 years of age and the transfer of pupils into high school at age 11.

 

RESOLVED:   that the layout and content of the guidance notes attached to the report be approved.

 

13.

Annual Report Required to be Produced by the Herefordshire Local Admission Forum pdf icon PDF 114 KB

To agree the annual report as required by The Education (Admission Forums) (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2007.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

Consideration was given to the annual report shown as required by The Education (Admission Forums) (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2007.

 

A Member referred to a Note issued by the Department Children Schools and Families which sets out the purpose of admission Forum reports and provides guidelines on their content.

 

Andrew Blackman, Admissions and Transport Manager, informed the Forum that the content of the Annual report was in accordance with the provisions of the School Admissions Code 2007.

 

Sharon Menghini referred to the possible inclusion of an element in the Annual report on the issue regarding some parents being unable to afford school Uniforms and in such cases, schools would make provision to alleviate this problem. It would be for the forum to decide if an appropriate paragraph should be included in the Annual report.

 

Andrew Blackman made reference to paragraph 7 of the report and informed the Forum that since the report was circulated, it had come to his attention that Bosbury and Mordiford Primary schools had not complied with the Admissions Code of Practice. This was the subject of report also Minute No.41 to these Minutes.

 

RESOLVED:   that the draft report be noted subject to the inclusion of an element which asks schools to make provision to alleviate the problem where parents are unable to afford Uniforms for their children who are allocated a place at a school.

 

 

 

 

 

14.

Information Regarding Transfers Outside of the Normal Admission Rounds pdf icon PDF 88 KB

To consider the statistics in relation to secondary school transfers.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

Consideration was given to a report regarding the statistics in relation to secondary school “in-year” transfers.

 

 A member expressed concern regarding the numbers of children transferred from a school as a consequence of them being unhappy.

 

Andrew Blackman stated that he would issue a summary to Members which indicated the reasons for children requesting a transfer from schools.

 

RESOLVED:   that headteachers be requested to comment and discuss with officers the issues regarding children requesting to leave their school as a consequence of being unhappy.

 

 

15.

Amendments to School Planned Admission Numbers pdf icon PDF 101 KB

To consider revising the Planned Admission Numbers for Aylestone High School, Kingstone High School, Leominster Junior School and St Martin’s Primary.

Minutes:

Consideration was given to a report regarding changes to the Planned Admission Numbers (PAN) at Aylestone High School, Kingstone High School, Leominster Junior School and St Martin’s Primary School.

 

Andrew Blackman, Admissions and Transport Manager, informed the Forum that he had not yet received confirmation from the Chairman of Governors of Kingstone High School that the PAN should be reduced.

 

RESOLVED:   (a)        that the proposed changes to the Planned Admission Numbers at Aylestone High School, Leominster Junior School and St Martin’s Primary School be approved; and

 

                        (b)       that consideration of proposed changes to the Planned Admission Numbers at Kingstone High School be deferred.

 

16.

Unauthorised Additional Admissions in Excess of Agreed School Published Admission Numbers pdf icon PDF 93 KB

To consider unauthorised changes to the Published Admission Numbers (PAN) at St Mary’s R.C. High School and Kingsland C.E. Primary School.

Minutes:

Consideration was given to a report regarding unauthorised changes to the Published Admission Numbers (PAN) at St Mary’s R C High School and Kingsland C.E. Primary School.

 

Andrew Blackman, Admissions and Transport Manager informed the Forum that since the report had been circulated, seven admission appeals had been allowed for places at Bosbury Primary school due to the school’s  Chairman of Governors indicating to two parents that the school could admit their children. Also, that five appeals had been allowed for places at Mordiford primary school due to the Appeals Hearing being informed by the Headteacher that the school could take the children.

 

Circulated at the meeting, and is attached to the Agenda, was correspondence from the Headteacher of St Mary’s RC High School indicating that his statement at the appeals hearing regarding room at the school for another class was taken out of context.

 

Alan McLaughlin stated that an alternative course of action would be to write to the schools seeking their reassurance in writing that they will in future adhere to the regulations, procedures and protocols regarding school admissions particularly in the light of falling rolls.

 

RESOLVED:   that the unauthorised changes to school admission numbers to the Published Admission Numbers (PAN) at St Mary’s R C High School, Kingsland C.E. Primary School, Bosbury Primary School and Mordiford Primary school be referred to the Schools Adjudicator

 

 

 

17.

Consultation by Depatment of Children, Schools and Families (DCSF) on Admission Arrangements

Minutes:

Consideration was given to a late item regarding consultation by DCSF on admission arrangements. Members were circulated with the Web site where details of the consultation paper were available if they wish to participate in the consultation. Dates for consultation were from 12th July to 2nd October 2008.

 

RESOLVED:   that members of the Forum to participate in the consultation independently via the appropriate DCSF Web site.

 

The Chairman informed Members that this was the last meeting that the Rev. I Terry would be attending. He thanked him for all his work for the Forum and the way in which he had fulfilled his duties.